Q&A with Beth Mayer, author of We Will Tell You Otherwise

“When everyone in the house is finally asleep, I step outside. It is fall in the Midwest and sometimes that means the air is made of silk. My feet bare on the concrete driveway, the night feels good against my skin. Almost like a secret human touch.”

~ from “Tell Me Something I Don’t Know” in We Will Tell You Otherwise.


The gift of stories, fiction or non, is in finding connections: the writer connecting with the reader by creating relatable characters, and the reader rediscovering self as she views the world through the eyes of these characters.

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Beth Mayer’s We Will Tell You Otherwise (just released from Black Lawrence Press), is a collection of short stories about the human spirit and our need for strong connections.

From a father and son brought closer by the death of a stranger, to a mother who takes over the itinerary of a failing family vacation to save her own spirit and that of her kids, to a young wannabe psychic who provides temporary promise in her prediction, Mayer offers readers a close look at the intimacy and ties created in conversations and in correspondence.

Winner of the Hudson Prize (2017), We Will Tell You Otherwise is called “slyly ironic and often sardonic” by David Haynes (A Star in the Face of the Sky), who also says is “these stories kept me smiling all the way through.”

Beth Mayer stopped by during Short Story Month in May, and I’m thrilled to host her again, this time for an author interview. I’m also hosting a giveaway! ENTER HERE by Tuesday, August 27th, for a chance to win a copy of Mayer’s new collection (courtesy of Caitlin Hamilton Marketing & Publicity and Black Lawrence Press).

Now, welcome Beth Mayer!

Christi Craig (CC): In your guest post on my blog during Short Story Month, you talk about the complexity in crafting short stories and say, “I have grown to understand how, when I give myself permission, a short story determines itself.” How did this collection come together? Did you have a plan from the beginning or did the whole of the book fall into place organically?

Beth Mayer: I’ve been writing short stories for a long time. Once I got serious about my first collection, I knew I was getting close when it was a finalist in a few book contests. Looking back, I see now before this book was really done, I was busy getting better, revising, writing new stories, and refining my vision. With a lot of patience and faithful work, this collection determined itself and I love where we ended up.

CC: “Darling, Won’t You Tell Me True?” is a story about Mr. James Harrington, who begins a correspondence with his mother’s caretaker, Miss Christopher, after his mother dies. Through James’ letters only (we never read a word that Miss Christopher writes), we see a relationship unfold, a budding romance, and the pieces of the entire story are present in his responses as he writes such things he might never say aloud face to face. Your story is fiction, sure, but there’s always truth in fiction. What is it about the intimacy of letters that allows us as humans to open up in ways we could not otherwise?

Beth: I am fascinated by old letters, documents, recipes with notes on them. My old postcard collection—ones with writing on them that I found in antique shops—reveals how the stuff of life can be shared through personal correspondence. Think the crops were good; the baby died; I am back from war and still sweet on you, if you’ll have me.

As a reader, and writer, I find fictional epistolary of all kinds quite engaging. Humans, I suppose, think that letters allow us to craft our messages. Perhaps time and distance allow us to feel less vulnerable since we aren’t face-to-face with how our message is received. And isn’t it interesting that in 2019 we are again writing back and forth—albeit digitally and with immediacy—about the most mundane and intimate matters?

CC: On your website, you write about winning the Loft Mentor Series in fiction and the power of working with a mentor. How has that experience affected your work on short stories and continued to inspire you as an author?

Beth: To begin, the chance to be expected and required to regularly show up to the Loft in Minneapolis—which is a beautiful space—felt good. That time was pivotal for me. It had been a while since I had finished my MFA and landed my teaching position, so I made a conscious decision to really use my program year to renew my commitment to my writing and to my life as a writer. Several of the new stories I wrote challenged me in the best possible ways, because I was ready to be challenged. Those same stories informed my collection as a whole and are now part of my first book. From my year in the program, I have lasting friendships and am now even more committed to helping my own students or mentees discover what it is they are aiming to do on the page.

CC: What are you reading these days?

Beth: The Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2017, Edited by Charles Yu, Little Fires Everywhere by Celeste Ng, The Best We Could Do: An Illustrated Memoir by Thi Bui, Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler.

CC: Being from Minneapolis, I imagine your summers are as short and sweet as those in Wisconsin. What’s your favorite summer activity that not only feeds your need for play for also fuels your creativity?

Beth: The best summer for me comes with time for thinking and dreaming. Time to take in ideas and images makes me happy and helps spark my own imagination. My husband and I like to have coffee out on our patio and walk our spoiled little dog. I love to spend time at the lake place that my extended family shares in Wisconsin. And as a teacher, reading whatever strikes and interests me is one of my greatest summer pleasures.


BETH MAYER’S fiction has appeared in The Threepenny ReviewThe Sun Magazine, and The Midway Review. She was afiction finalist for The Missouri Review’s Jeffrey E. Smith Editors’ Prize (2016), her work recognized among “Other Distinguished Stories” by Best American Mystery Stories (2010), and her stories anthologized in both American Fiction (New Rivers) and New Stories from the Midwest (Ohio University). Mayer holds an MFA in creative writing from Hamline University. She currently teaches English at Century College in Minnesota, where she lives with her family and impossibly faithful dog.

DON’T FORGET! Enter the giveaway by Tuesday, August 27th,
for a chance to win a copy of We Will Tell You Otherwise.

Q&A with Patrice Gopo, author of All the Colors We Will See

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“There are stories, unknown stories that roll across the salty waves of the open sea. Unknown stories contained in the hulls of run-down ships carrying enslaved human beings. And there are known stories of my Indian ancestors arriving on Jamaican shores. I am a story, and I cling to the known parts because maybe in that act I remember and also remind others how much has been taken, erased, and lost. I am here….”

~ Patrice Gopo, All the Colors We Will See


“I am a story, and I cling to the known parts….” I love that line from Patrice Gopo’s new collection of essays, All the Colors We Will See. Stories play such important roles in our lives. They help us remember; they connect us, teach us, inspire us. Those connections are not always ties of familiarity, but they are pathways to conversation. The lessons we learn by reading about others’ experiences translates into new understandings of our own. When we ask questions, when we listen, we find inspiration. Through stories, we transcend.

In All the Colors We Will See, Gopo takes readers on a journey to discover new meanings FROM her past, new pathways to understanding her future, a journey of awareness and acceptance. We read about Jamaican immigrants living in Alaska, a black family attending a mostly-white church in North Carolina, and the definition of being black–is it race? ethnicity? experience?

I’m honored to host Patrice to talk about her new book and excited to offer a giveaway! Enter by Tuesday, January 22nd, for a chance to win a copy of All the Colors We Will See.

Now, welcome Patrice Gopo!

Christi Craig (CC): You’ve written a beautiful collection of essays about place, identity, being seen, and finding your voice. Is there a particular piece in All the Colors We Will See from which the rest of the book blossomed?

Patrice Gopo (PG): Christi, thank you so much for those kind words. I love the way you express the collection as also about being seen and finding voice.

I think those are accurate descriptors and remind me of one of the first essays I ever drafted, “Caught in the Year of OJ Simpson and Huckleberry Finn.” Being seen and finding voice (or not finding voice) were definite themes in that piece.

I wouldn’t say the collection as a whole blossomed from the Huck Finn essay, but this was one of the first essays I ever wrote that would go on to become part of the collection. An early draft of the Huck Finn essay and an early draft of another essay set the stage for the themes that would continue to resurface in my work. Themes around belonging and identity formation, around race and movement of people. These themes would become a sort of compass pointing me to a reality that there existed a much larger work, a collection.

CC: In “A Note to a College Classmate” you write about reading Ellison’s Invisible Man and suddenly being thrown into a discussion where you become the voice of many; in “Marching Toward Zion” you sort through experience and feelings around attending a white church, your need to belong versus your desire to “linger at the edge” in order to stay true to self. You ask, “How can we keep from becoming worn?” Your writing is not only full of insight into your experience but pulls the reader into moments of her own self-reflection. What is one thing you hope readers will carry away with them as they reach the last pages your book?

PG: Ever since All the Colors We Will See entered the world, I regularly receive lovely notes from people who share how much this book meant to them. Some of these people share much overlap with me in terms of personal experience and some don’t. What I find interesting, though, is that at some level, in some way, people connect with the words I write. For people who connect at a deep level—perhaps they are also a person of color, perhaps they are the child of immigrants—my hope is that they will finish this book with a sense of affirmation that their story matters out there in the world, that there is space for them to fully be who they are. And for people who might connect with some elements of my story but also read about a world or life distant from their own, I hope they will carry with them a new perspective, a new way of looking at the world.

CC: In your talk “Our Stories Matter: Seeing Ourselves, Seeing Others, and Seeing Our God” (on Soundcloud), you say:

The specificity of our stories matters . . . . We no longer reduce people to the binary of same or different. Instead, we begin to see people for the fullness of who they are and who God created them to be . . . . We can listen and we can learn. And we can be transformed.

How has writing this book transformed you and your work as author and speaker?

PG: Thanks so much for listening to that talk! Writing has been instrumental in transforming my work as an author and speaker. I’m passionate about words and about sharing my story and adding my experience to our current conversations about race and immigration. However, in the process of writing and sharing my story, I discovered I also care about the way sharing personal stories can help shift people’s mindsets in pursuit of healing in society and in pursuit of a more equitable world.

I love helping people see that sharing their stories in the world matters too—even if they never write a personal essay or write a book like I did. That’s why in conjunction with my own writing, I’m actively engaged with communicating the message of the power of personal storytelling. Since my book entered the world, I’ve had the immense privilege of sharing this truth in all types of environments: corporate settings, libraries, nonprofit organizations, churches, conferences, public discussions, etc. I absolutely delight in the way people engage with the reality that they can identify their stories and they can share them too.

CC: What are you reading these days?

PG: I’m one who tends to keep a number of books in the stack beside my bed, reading chapters here, poems there. I just finished Michelle Obama’s wonderful memoir. I mentioned to someone that in Michelle’s book, she offers so many ways in which a reader might connect with her experience. Invitations to connect and opportunities to also see something different. I also just finished Radium Girls by Kate Moore. A fascinating, tragic, and inspiring book about a topic I knew nothing about until I started reading. I’m currently reading Create Dangerously: the Immigrant Artist at Work by Edwidge Danticat. I’m intrigued with her words and the way I feel some points of connection as the daughter of immigrants but then also there’s the invitation to see something more because I am the daughter of immigrants to the United States and not an immigrant to the United States myself. And the poetry collection in my currently-reading stack is Dead on Arrival by Jaki Shelton Green.

And one more, I just learned about LaTanya McQueen’s new essay collection, And It Begins Like This. From what I gather, she also explores themes around race and belonging, so I’m anxious to dive into this one.

CC: As you move into a new year of writing, what do you look forward to most?

PG: Honestly, I’m looking forward to the unfolding of what might be next. It was a very busy autumn for me with the launch of All the Colors We Will See. Now as life is settling into perhaps the new normal, I’m anticipating a bit more rest and bit more time for my mind to start considering my next creative endeavor. I’m not yet sure what that might be, but I do trust the process and believe what’s next will unfold as and when it should. In the meantime, I’m excited about a few ideas I have to empower others to share their stories that I’ll be rolling out probably in February. I’m also thrilled to have written the curriculum for “Beautiful Truth,” an exciting program here in Charlotte. If you’d like to hear more about my plans to help others identify and share their stories, you can subscribe to my newsletter HERE.

Patrice Gopo is the author of All the Colors We Will See, an essay collection about race, immigration, and belonging. She is the recipient of a North Carolina Arts Council Literature Fellowship, and her book is a Fall 2018 Barnes & Noble Discover Great New Writers selection. Patrice lives with her family in North Carolina. Follow her on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.


DON’T FORGET! Enter the giveaway by Tuesday, January 22nd, for a chance to win a copy of All the Colors We Will See.

Q&A with Virginia Pye, author of Shelf Life of Happiness

‘Some people seem willing to do anything to be happy, even if it means becoming colossally dull,’ Gloria continued. ‘But everyone knows it’s fleeting. There’s always a shelf life of happiness.’
~ from “Shelf Life of Happiness”

Being happy should be easy. We have plenty of resources around us that make it so: podcasts set on discovering it and books built around cultivating it, just to name a few. Yet Happiness is fleeting. While other authors are writing about reclaiming it, maintaining it, and preserving it, Virginia Pye has written short stories that define it in simple terms and give us a view into our own humanity, how we tend to overlook it, exploit it, or misinterpret it.

cover for Shelf Life of HappinessIn her new book, Shelf Life of Happiness (just out from Press 53), Pye fills the pages with unexpected sensations of affection, of freedom in truth, of realizations about what it means to be happy–or in love–but sometimes a little too late. Jim Shephard calls these “deft and moving stories.” Kelly Luce says these are “stories crafted with a sharp eye for the absurd intricacies of modern life…remembered later with such clarity and feeling that they seem like one’s own memories.” I call them tiny revelations packed in 169 pages. (Sure it could be 170, but would that really make you happier?)

I’m honored to host Virginia Pye to talk more about her book and her writing. There’s also a giveaway, courtesy of the author.

CLICK HERE to enter by Tuesday, October 30th for a chance to win a copy of Shelf Life of Happiness. And welcome Virginia Pye!


Christi Craig (CC): While Shelf Life of Happiness isn’t your first book, this is your first collection of stories after two successful novels (River of Dust and Dreams of the Red Phoenix). Considering how you’ve taken a path opposite of many authors, who begin with a collection and journey to longer works, what has been the most rewarding or compelling aspect of writing and publishing this new book?

Virginia PyeVirginia Pye (VP): I’ve written stories from the start, way back to high school or earlier. Like a lot of beginning writers, I tried to channel Hemingway and Faulkner, Calvino and Carver. But the nine stories in Shelf Life of Happiness were written over ten years more recently. I wrote them from an impulse to explore a particular moment or thought. Some irony of life, or question, strikes me and I need to flesh it out. Writing my novels is much more involved and immersive, but the stories can be every bit as exacting. I rewrite them over months and years as I send them out to literary magazines. When a story is returned, I often revise it before sending it out again.

I loved pulling together this collection, because it showed me that I’ve been chewing on some of the same themes for years—the illusive nature of happiness, the bittersweet nature of love, the struggle to ever know another person fully. And also, how a dedication to art—which to me means writing as well as visual art—can help guide a life and make sense of it. Some of the stories in Shelf Life of Happiness are about writing itself—the redemptive human effort to find order and beauty.

CC: One of my favorite quotes from your book is in the story, “White Dog:” 

[Dunster] struggled to understand why he’d pulled the trigger. Rob Singh had wanted to preserve his impeccable vista, but didn’t he know that perfection smelled like death? With that one shot, Dunster had upped the ante and shown Rob that he was wrong not to make his peace with the smudge on the horizon, the mistake on the canvas.

So much of your collection is about accepting life’s imperfections and coming to peace, and you tell your stories from the perspectives of a variety of characters: an elderly artist, a young skateboarder, a mother on the verge of breakdown. Where do your ideas for characters–their strengths and their flaws–come from?

VP: Like many writers, I transpose my life and everything I’ve ever read into fiction, though how exactly, or why, isn’t clear to me. It helps to be a bit older and to have had years to work things out. These days I keep remembering things my father told me near the end of his life that turn out to be wise in a pragmatic way. I didn’t realize at the time that what he was offering was valuable, but I see it now. My characters seem to come out of an accumulation of understanding.

But, to be more specific, the stories in Shelf Life of Happiness are about people I could know, and maybe the reader could know, as well. I cull details especially from those I love. The skateboarder in my story, An Awesome Gap, is definitely not my son, but my son does happen to be a skateboarder. I’ve seen his dedication to his “art,” though he’d never use such a glorified term for skating day in and day out in all kinds of weather. Also, I think we all know how even a good kid has to struggle to break free from his or her parents’ expectations. The teenage character in that story deals with that issue, too.

I’ve known artists like Dunster from White Dog, but that particular character is more than an amalgam of all the male artists I’ve ever sat next to at art museum dinner parties (my husband is a long-time curator and art museum director). Combine those experiences with everything I’ve ever read about artists, plus what I’ve learned myself about sustaining an artistic life, and you have Dunster. Though I suppose that doesn’t fully explain where my characters come from, either.

CC: In your essay, “A Zealot and a Poet” (on the Rumpus), you write–so beautifully–about discovering your grandfather’s journals that detail his experiences as a Congregational missionary in China during the early 1900s, and the surprise in finding he was much more than a missionary. He was a writer. In fact, he became the inspiration for the protagonist in your first book, River of Dust. How does his writing, his presence in your writing, continue to influence your work?

VP: Thanks so much for reading that essay. I’m proud of that one and appreciate you tracking it down. I don’t think my grandfather influences me much any longer, though his actual words and their cadence did help me create the voice for my debut novel, River of Dust.

But, since I mentioned my father earlier and now you offer this question about my grandfather, I wonder if you might be onto something: perhaps there is some way that I’m writing to keep up with them. They both believed their voices deserved to be heard. That sense of confidence may have come from white, male privilege, or a misplaced entitlement. But they, and my mother, were great readers and books crowded just about every surface in our home. My father wrote his many books and articles in long hand on yellow pads in the midst of our family activity, sometimes with the Celtics or Red Sox on the TV. Writing was something “we” did. I’m grateful to him and my mother, and even my grandfather, for that.

Though, to share more, it took some determination on my part to claim writing for myself. I remember distinctly that my father didn’t think I was a good writer when I was teenager—he thought of me as scattered in my thinking, which I was, and considered me more of a “people person” than a writer. As a girl and a youngest child, I’d been trained to be helpful and accommodating, not assertive with ideas and words. To convince my parents to help pay for grad school, I told them I needed an MFA to teach writing. They could see me as a teacher, but not as a writer. I remember reassuring them I wasn’t trying to win the Pulitzer Prize. That seemed to set them at ease. I think they didn’t want me to deal with the disappointment that writers inevitably face. But also, they didn’t think I could do it because I was a girl.

CC: What are you reading these days?

VP: I read several books at once, all novels or short stories. Some are for research for my next novel, which is set in 1890s Boston. Katherine Howe’s historical novel from several years ago, The House of Velvet and Glass, is entertaining and smart. But right now I also have Laura van den Berg’s The Third Hotel and Susan Henderson’s The Flicker of Old Dreams on my bedside table. As always, there’s too much to read!

CC: What is your favorite season in which to write?

VP: When my children were young and we went on vacation to Maine in the summer, I’d get up early in the mornings to write. It was so peaceful and rewarding because I knew the rest of the day would be packed with family outings. I loved the quiet as the birds started to stir and the sun rose over the ocean, followed all too quickly by the cacophony of young voices and little feet pounding on floorboards.

But these days, as an empty nester, I have lots of time and tend to buckle down in the colder months, when there are fewer distractions. Boston turns out to be a great book town, not just because of the wonderful bookstores, or because of GrubStreet, the writing organization, but because the weather is so lousy so much of the year. You simply have to stay indoors and write!

I feel lucky to join the throngs of writers, both past and present, who have made this city their home. As we head into winter, when mornings start out cold and dusk comes early, I look forward to hunkering down at my desk.

Virginia Pye is the author of two award-winning novels, Dreams of the Red Phoenix and River of Dust, and the forthcoming short story collection, Shelf Life of Happiness. Her stories, essays, and interviews have appeared in The North American ReviewThe Baltimore ReviewLiterary HubThe New York TimesThe RumpusHuffington Post and elsewhere. She lived in Richmond, Virginia for many years and now lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Find her online at www.virginiapye.com.


Don’t forget: enter the giveaway by Tuesday, October 30th,
for a chance to win a copy of Shelf Life of Happiness.